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Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Zeitgeist 2 (Addendum) reviews

Zeitgeist 2: Theosophy, Socialism, and The new NWO

Timing is everything.
On September 29, the United States stock market crashed, falling 777 points. Just in time for the fallout, a worldwide financial collapse, the movie Zeitgeist Addendum was released. The film, right on cue, explains the obvious, how a flawed financial system failed, and how it exploited the hard work, savings and investments of all of those that lost their money to this system. It simultaneously heaps blame on free markets and religion, while calling for a global shift in consciousness.

This new paradigm is of course an old paradigm. It’s an open call for socialism. One need look no further than Karl Marx to see the parallels between Zeitgeist Addendum’s linking a distaste for free markets and religion. This should set off some rather loud alarm bells in the minds of patriotic and freedom loving Americans.

Most of those that have been actively observing the global elite have likewise understand that a pre-planned financial crash has been in the works for some time. Nickolas Sarozky president of the EU says he wants a new global economic system to rise out of the ashes of this crash which, in his own words is expressed as a “new world.” order.

Zeitgeist Addendum seems to further the cause for this New World Order, neo-socialist paradigm. With America politicians and representatives ignoring the masses and passing off the debt of banks on to the general public, one can see the seeds of new world socialism emerging right here in America. It’s no coincidence that just as the New World Order beings implementing marxist thought in so called free countries, Zeitgeist Addendum shows up to incite the masses in a global call for marxism.

If one should prefer to save 2 hours and skip watching Zeitgeist Addendum, its proposals are clearly spelled out in a relatively unknown book entitled “The Externalization of the Hierarchy” written by Alice Bailey. Actually Bailey claimed to have channeled an “Ascended Master” known as “the Tibetan” or Djwhal Khul who penned the book through her.

Bailey was also the founder of the theosophical Lucifer Trust (later changed to Lucis Trust). Please note, that the solution to the faltering global economy offered by Zeitgeist Addendum is “The Venus Project.” Venus, also known as the morning star is synonymous with the term Lucifer.

Some of the highlights from Bailey’s The Externalization of the Heirarchy include the following:

“The problem of money will have to be faced; the problem of the distribution of wealth – whether natural or human – will need careful handling and a compromise reached between those nations which possess unlimited resources and those who have few or none; the problem of the varying forms of national government must be faced with courage and insight; the restoration – psychological, spiritual and physical – of mankind must constitute a primary responsibility. The sense of security must be put on a firm basis – the basis of right relationship, and not the basis of force. Men must feel secure because they are seeking to develop international goodwill and can trust each other, and are not therefore dependent upon the strength of their armies and fleets.”

For those that have seen Zeitgeist Addendum, this should sound familiar, as it is the basis for the
entire film.

Bailey’s EOTH also includes specifics as to the nature of the New World Order and the following are just some of the links between Bailey’s work and Zeitgeist Addendum:

“The new world order will recognize that the produce of the world, the natural resources of the planet and its riches, belong to no one nation but should be shared by all. There will be no nations under the category “haves” and others under the opposite category. A fair and properly organized distribution of the wheat, the oil and the mineral wealth of the world will be developed, based upon the needs of each nation, upon its own internal resources and the requirements of its people. All this will be worked out in relation to the whole.”

“The new world order will be founded on the recognition that all men are equal in origin and goal but that all are at differing stages of evolutionary development; that personal integrity, intelligence, vision and experience, plus a marked goodwill, should indicate leadership. The domination of the proletariat over the aristocracy and bourgeoisie, as in Russia, or the domination of an entrenched aristocracy over the proletariat and middle classes, as has been until lately the case in Great Britain, must disappear. The control of labor by capital or the control of capital by labor must also go.”

“In the new world order, the governing body in any nation should be composed of those who work for the greatest good of the greatest number and who at the same time offer opportunity to all, seeing to it that the individual is left free. Today the men of vision are achieving recognition, thus making possible a right choice of leaders. It was not possible until this century.”

“The new world order will be founded on an active sense of responsibility. The rule will be “all for one and one for all.” This attitude among nations will have to be developed. It is not yet present.”

“In the preparatory period for the new world order there will be a steady and regulated disarmament. It will not be optional. No nation will be permitted to produce and organize any equipment for destructive purposes or to infringe the security of any other nation. One of the first tasks of any future peace conference will be to regulate this matter and gradually see to the disarming of the nations.”

“These are the simple and general premises upon which the new world order must begin its work. These preliminary stages must be kept fluid and experimental; the vision of possibility must never be lost, and the foundations must be preserved inviolate, but the intermediate processes and the experimentations must be carried forward by men who, having the best interests of the whole at heart, can change the detail of organization whilst preserving the life of the organism.”

One should first take into consideration the many similarities between Bailey and the marxist propaganda espoused in Zeitgeist Addendum. It is then a much simpler task to view the film’s open call for global socialism as one and the same as the New World Theosophical religious and social order being so aptly adhered to by the high level occultists that are, in fact the global elite.
In doing so, the following information should come as no shock and simply, further proof of collusion between two seemingly opposite groups. As you can see, they are no more opposite than Republican and Democrat. Outwardly so yes, but certainly behind the scenes both are controlled by the same invisible hand.

The Venus Project which has already in name been linked to Lucifer, is obviously a socialist movement. Founded by Jacque Fresco, upon first glance it may appear similar to one of the multitude of ill fated hippy communes of the 1960’s. But upon further study, it too is rooted in the same NWO/Occult/Theosophical belief structure.

One of the basic premises of The Venus Project is that we work towards having all of the Earth’s resources as the common heritage of all the world’s people. Anything less will simply result in a continuation of the same catalog of problems inherent in the present system.”

This is exactly what Bailey wrote of in The Externalization of the Hierarchy. The links between The Venus Project and the essence of Secret Societies does however run even deeper than the call for a communistic sharing of world resources.

33rd degree masonic author Manley P Hall said of America’s link to the new Atlantis, “The New Atlantis sets forth an ideal government of the earth. It foretells that day when in the midst of men there shall rise up a vast institution composed of the philosophic elect — an order of illumined men banded together for the purpose of investigating the laws of life and the mysteries of the universe … The age of boundaries is closing, and we are approaching a nobler era when nations shall be no more; when the lines of race and caste shall be wiped out; when the whole earth shall be under one order, one government, one administrative body.” -Manly P Hall “Lectures on
Ancient Philosophy,” published by the Philosophical Research Society Inc, Los Angeles (1970)”

Hall, along side of Rosicrucians like Francis Bacon, clearly defined the New World Order’s drive to recreate Atlantis, and this theme clearly “resurfaces” in Fresco’s “architecture”, specifically in his “Circular City”.

The Circular City image (above) is one that is notably comparable to artistic visions of Atlantis based upon Plato’s description of the sunken city (below).

Another warning sign of Fresco’s New World Order mentality is
his desire to see technology steering mankind’s destiny. Many
patriots shiver at the idea of biometric identification, specifically
the idea of implantable microchips that could be used to track and
control humans in ways up until recently only envisioned in the
Bible. Fresco’s vision for the future of humanity goes well beyond
that of a simple microchip implant. He foresees humanity needing
to merge with machine or else risk de-evolution.

“When biological technology becomes further advanced, human beings as we know them, will become a modified species. If we as human beings fail to include the possibility of this development in our overall, social evolution we will witness the decline of our species” -Jacque Fresco The Best that Money Can’t buy, Beyond Politics, Poverty, & War.

These are not mere coincidences. While seemingly “revolutionary” in thought, Fresco and his school of thought as espoused by the Zeitgeist vision of rebellion against the system are part and parcel of the same social upheaval being called for, not by humanitarians, but by those that have
been planning for the New World Order from it’s earliest stages.

It should also be noted that Zeitgeist Addendum begins and ends with speaking from Krisnamurti who was raised from boyhood by the Theosophical Society to be a “world teacher“. Even though he broke from the group after declining to be the messiah he maintained a friendly relationship by most accounts.

This is not unlike others within the “Truth Movement” such as Michael Tsarion, who openly admits he was, from an early age taught by theosophist if not raised by them. his connections to the group are quite interesting.

This peculiar affinity with the occult is nothing out of the ordinary with Zeitgeist. Part 1 of the initial Zeitgeist film was based on the work of a man that loved theosophy so much he apprently named himself Jordan Maxwell after Helena Blavatsky’sJordanus Maximus“. (see also Debunking Jordan Maxwell)

Before discounting the political power of Theosophy and its desire to infiltrate the truth seekers you need to understand its concept of seed groups. These groups were sent forth to work in stealth so as to be nurtured without competition from those that would see them for what they truly are. When one wonders how or why anyone offering truth about the occult could in fact be
part of the New World Order, they need look no further than Alice Bailey.

One of the most specific goals of the theosophist, as dictated in The Externalization of the Hierarchy is the following:

“The education of the advanced thinkers, of the aspirants and world disciples in applied knowledge, expressed wisdom and occult understanding. This group synthesizes all that is available in the other two groups and thus forms the nucleus of the Kingdom of God, of the fifth kingdom which is so rapidly coming into being.”

According to the Theosophy, starting with it’s founder Blavatsky, god is really Lucifer. This is luciferian theology, not Christian doctrine.

“The devil is now called Darkness by the Church, whereas, in the Bible he is called the “Son of God”, the bright star of the early morning, Lucifer. There is a whole philosophy of dogmatic craft in the reason why the first Archangel, who sprang from the depths of Chaos, was called Lux (Lucifer), the “Luminous Son of the Morning,” or man- vantaric Dawn. He was transformed by the Church into Lucifer or Satan, because he is higher and older than Jehovah, and had to be sacrificed to the new dogma. -Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine

Zeitgeist Addendum held over one central theme from its predecessor, that Jesus was and is just another name for all of the other gods of antiquity. Unfortunately in Zeitgeist’s extensive reference material webpage and/or reference book there is nothing that specifically backs up any of these claims.
If you can prove the claims in Part 1 of
Zeitgeist, by all means follow the links and win yourself some money.

There is actually a good reason why theosophy wants to particularly discredit this on particular religion this youtube video by a non-christian sums it up nicely.

They are misleading you…

It should be noted that any critical thinker can’t help but to agree with many of the practical points and issues raised in the Zeitgeist Addendum. It is however, so very important to be cautious about who we as truth seekers run to while trying to seek understanding in these confusing times.

The key to understanding why the New World Order has chosen to expose itself lies in Bailey’s Externalization of the Heirarchy.

“The new world order must be appropriate to a world which has passed through a destructive crisis and to a humanity which is badly shattered by the experience. The new world order must lay the foundation for a future world order which will be possible only after a time of recovery, of reconstruction, and of rebuilding.”

You know about Bohemian Grove. You know the signs and symbols that prove the elitists working towards a New World Order are part of a luciferian death cult. Now you need to ask yourself why those working to expose the New World Order are also linked to the same luciferian and occult beliefs.

The New World Order seems to have emerged to play the scapegoat for the order that will follow it. This second world order is the Theosophists’ Kingdom of God. Blavatsky told us who their god is. It is Lucifer. And how better a way to have a luciferian antichrist arrive on the scene, to be taken seriously by all as he crushes the New World Order, seemingly rescuing all of humanity from the clutches of its tyrannical all seeing eye.


Zeitgeist Addendum = Steaming Pile of NWO Propaganda


The movie started by establishing the fraud of the US monetary system, which it applied to the IMF and World Bank, and then extended to the global corporate empire that is raping the world through “capitalism” and “free trade”.

True capitalism and free trade were thus demonized.

It stated that all systems that are based on money are inherently corrupt, whether it be socialism, fascism, capitalism, or communism, but I believe that it stated that capitalism is supposed to be the worst.

It stated that people need to create a system that is “based on resources” so that there is “no competition”, and then people can solve every problem with technology.

It argued that trying to change politics is useless, because in a “monetary system” everything is inherently corrupt, and supporting Ron Paul is particularly useless evidently.

Zeitgeist Addendum also wants everyone to give up their religions, so that the whole world can focus on the “collective cosmic conscience”.

This is classic NWO propaganda.

For those of you who aren’t aware, the international banksters financed the Bolshevik Revolution and created Communism, when Rothschild agent Jacob Schiff financed Leon Trotsky in New York.

This “resource-based technocratic utopia” tripe is just the latest version of the propaganda that they will use to create global fascism by manipulating all sides of civilization.

Please compare these forms of propaganda to the actual tenets of the original Bavarian Illuminati, which was established by Adam Weishaupt on May 1, 1776:

•Abolition of monarchies
•Abolition of ordered government
•Abolition of private property
•Abolition of nationalism
•Abolition of marriage
•Abolition of religion
•The communal education of children

NWO = Jesuits + Zionists + Knights of Malta



Ok people this is VERY important!! Look at the intro to “Zeitgeist Addendum”, it’s more than just plain aesthetics. First it makes you focus on a single point like a hypnotist, then it incorporates these intense periods of fast flickering strobe like imagery, followed by periods of instant calm. That throws people’s brains for a loop without them even really knowing about it, and then induces a far more mesmerized and suggestible state. It’s as if it was produced by a PsyOps technician or something, or at least someone who knows brainwashing type techniques.

It’s also like what integrators do, they shout and scream at people, then offer them tea and biscuits, then shout and scream at them again, it’s a way of breaking down people’s mental barriers. The first film’s intro also had this type of sequence, presented in a slightly different way with tanks and bombs bombarding people’s senses, with intersecting “serene” moments.

After doing a lot of editing work myself I look at this and think: “what is this guy trying to achieve with a sequence like this?”. My conclusion is that he’s trying to produce something that’s not designed to please people, but to actually try and reach into their brains a bit, so that information can be sort of more implanted than absorbed and accepted consciously. I don’t know, but I certainly don’t feel right about Zeitgeist from a technical stand point, it seems rather disturbing and manipulative.

It’s like something from Clock Work Orange where the main character in that is being “reconditioned” with strobing imagery. It’s sick and a lot of people haven’t even got a clue what their looking at. This guy Peter Joseph can claim it’s “art” all day, the bottom-line is that if his film were to be broadcast it would most likely break a ton of broadcasting laws because of the intro alone. It would probably induce epileptic fits in a minority of people, on the majority it would have varying degrees of a manipulative effect on their critical thinking, making them more cognitively malleable and primed to absorb the “information” (ideology more to the point) presented in the film with less critical filtering.

These are just observations which could be wrong, but it’s a critique that needs to be made that not too many people are making.

from: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/69146

Zeitgeist Addendum: Toward a Technocratic, Communitarian, Cybernated Society
Peter Joseph is naive, and has been swayed by one after another “teacher.” In the first Zeitgeist – a Hegelian concept coined by Johann Gottfried Herder of the Bavarian Illuminati – he was obviously enamored with ‘Acharya S’ and her occult Theosophical “secret tradition” interpretation of ancient history. In ‘Addendum,’ he has found a few new (solution-oriented) gurus of the same ilk.

The one-time New Age Theosophical Christ-Maitreya, J. Krishnamurti — thrust upon the occult, Utopian socialist underground at the beginning of the 20th century by Theosophy head, Fabian socialist Annie Besant and pederast-Freemason, C.W. Leadbeater — begins and ends the film. For something that purports to espouse “a modern, non-superstitious based understanding” of the world, well, let’s just say that it is hypocritical and deceitful not to even identify the theosophical current throughout both films, or the outright socialism of the latest. Though Peter Joseph hasn’t admitted his Theosophical debt, at 1:35:37 he tips his hand by the obscure mention of “intellectual materialism” – a term used by Blavatsky herself in Lucifer magazine (also, see here for another theosophic source) – and touts the “true divinity” of Man (1:48:25). New Ager aka “economic hitman”-Perkins has experienced the seething energies of Lucifer as well. At 1:43:07 he talks of the bliss of connectedness and our “God spirit,” while an “Illumined” man makes a gesture with his hands of a triangle in front of the sun.

In Zeitgeist: Addendum, Part I is based upon Ellen Brown’s Web of Debt; Part II, is based on New Age, shamanistic practitioner, communist apologist, John Perkins’ Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, whom the Left view – and no wonder – as an acceptable “conspiracy theorist.” At about 00:48:00 in the film (still within Perkins-dedicated Part II) Peter Joseph quotes from Jim Garrison, the same quote to which Perkins had cited on p. 170 of his book. After writing that the IMF’s stated goal (or ruse) was to “save us all from the evil clutches of communism,” Perkins then immediately quotes from communist Mikhail Gorbachev’s buddy Jim Garrison:

Taken cumulatively, the integration of the world as a whole, particularly in terms of economic globalization and the mythic qualities of “free market” capitalism, represents a veritable “empire” in its own right . . . No nation on earth has been able to resist the compelling magnetism of globalization. Few have been able to escape the “structural adjustments” and “conditionalities” of the World Bank , the International Monetary Fund, or the arbitrations of the World Trade Organization, those international financial institutions that, however inadequate, still determine what economic globalization means, what the rules are, and who is rewarded for submission and punished for infractions . Such is the power of globalization that within our lifetime we are likely to see the integration, even if unevenly, of all national economies in the world into a single global, free market system .

Jim Garrison, America As Empire: Global Leader or Rogue Power?, 2004, p. 38.

Garrison is an insider’s insider. Indeed, in the last sentence of the above quote, he had successfully predicted the current situation which seems to be occurring as we speak. Jim Garrison is the President of the technocratic State of the World Forum, organized by the Gorbachev Foundation. This is the realization of Gorbachev’s lofty goal of a global Brain Trust. In its first meeting in 1995,

The former head of the Communist empire had gathered “nearly 500 senior states-people, political leaders, spiritual leaders, scientists, intellectuals, business executives, artists and youth from 50 nations to begin a process of deliberation on the central question of what priorities, values and actions should guide humanity as it moves into the next phase of development,” said Jim Garrison, President of the Gorbachev Foundation.

“Human interdependence,” he continued, “must now become our watchword as we move into the global civilization which lies ahead: interdependence with each other, interdependence with the earth, interdependence with the Spirit which perennially guides the affairs of humankind.”

Garrison is the front-man for the Gorbachev elite enterprise. He’s an adherent of the theosophical school of Manly P. Hall Rosicrucianism. He touts the long held America-as-Atlantis utopian plan of Francis Bacon. More, from America As Empire:


Of particular importance to the thinking and politics of the founding fathers was the work of Francis Bacon, who, in some ways, was the spiritual godfather of the American republic. Bacon left a legacy of achievement unrivaled in his generation. He was a writer who some scholars believe authored several of the works attributed to Shakespeare, a scientist who helped shape the basis of modern science with his theories of an empirical scientific method, and, hidden from public view, one of the great secular mystics of his age.

He was friend and counselor to Queen Elizabeth I and King James I, serving as attorney general and lord chancellor. He was also a friend of the explorer Sir Walter Raleigh. Raleigh had tried unsuccessfully to found a colony in what is now North Carolina. Although he failed in doing that, he brought back and introduced to England potatoes and tobacco, at the same time igniting Europe’s imagination with the possibilities of the New World. It was Bacon who penned the first popular expression of these possibilities in a curious little manuscript titled New Atlantis, which he wrote in 1624 but which was published posthumously in 1627.


Inspired by Raleigh’s tales of a vast land of untapped resources and scarcely peopled, New Atlantis told the story of a group of sailors who venture forth from Peru and are blown off-course northward. There they find a previously undiscovered island called Bensalem, which is governed by the House of Salomon. The House of Salomon was undeniably wise. In its exploration of the “true nature of things,” it would send out an expedition every twelve years to trade “not for gold, silver, or jewels; nor for silk, nor for spices; nor any other commodity of matter; but only for God’s first creature, which was Light: to have Light of the growth of all parts of the world.” The House of Salomon had what it called “Perspective Houses” where “all multiplications of light” were demonstrated. This focus on light provided the House of Salomon with the capacity for good governance. “Happy are the people of Bensalem,” the governor in the book declares. “There is not under heaven so chaste a nation as this of Bensalem; nor so free from all pollution or foulness. It is a virgin of the world.” The people were happy because within constraints they were free and within limits their needs were met



Bacon invoked the lost civilization of Atlantis to underscore that Paradise was and can be lost; but he reframed that ancient myth and cautionary tale within the possibility of a new Atlantis that could be created in the New World Europeans had just discovered. Paradise could be rebuilt in the “virgin country” of America. Only if the inhabitants of the New World lost their connection with the light, would they, like Atlantis of old, be destroyed.


…a beacon of freedom to the rest of the world. Benjamin Franklin summarized this vision when he said that America’s true destiny was not to be about power, it was to be about light.

The United States soon discovered that having such a foundation in the light gave it an extraordinary wisdom in the acquisition of power. Right from the beginning, even before the Revolutionary War in 1776, the Americans demonstrated remarkable agility in their interactions with the British, then the dominant European power. Alone among all the

Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, among numerous others, were all revolutionaries. They were also members of the Masonic order, a secret society dedicated to the teachings of mystical Christianity. They were steeped in the political thinking of Locke, Smith, and Hume; they were schooled in the Enlightenment thinking of Descartes, Voltaire, and Montesquieu; they were immersed in the esoteric teachings of ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome; and they were devoted to the scientific method and mystical writings of Bacon. As they fought the Revolutionary War and as they created the Constitution of the United States, the founding fathers brought these strands together to achieve a whole new kind of nation, based on a radically new notion of human possibility. As Washington put it, America was to become what freemasonry already was–a temple of virtue. [my emphasis]

The United States was the first nation in history to be consciously created as a place of perfection. The Great Seal of the United States, printed on every dollar bill, summarizes the great promise that the United States was founded to embody. It depicts a pyramid that the ancient Egyptians used as a metaphor for the tip of a beam of light. At the top of the pyramid is the all-seeing eye of Horus, the Egyptian sun god, whose essence is light and who represents the eye of knowledge. Underneath the pyramid are inscribed the words Novus ordo [seclorum], which means “New order for the ages.” In this spirit, the founding fathers intended the United States to be the greatest of nations, destined to be an inspiration to all…

Parts III and IV of Addendum supports this utopian reordering of society that occultists have longed for. Enter the Technocracy movement’s futurist-genius: Jacque Fresco. At this point the film essentially espouses – as a solution to the ills of capitalism, competition and the free market – an unabashed technocratic anarcho-communitarian sociology.

Part III begins (00:54:27) with a quote from Bernard Lietaer about greed and competition. Lietae is an important man. He is a member of the Club of Rome (the establishment’s population reduction conclave that wants to kill off all the useless eaters); was intimately involved with something called GaiaCorp (named after the earth goddess worshipped by the UN theosophical occultists, of course); was “responsible for the design and implementation of the ECU, the convergence mechanism to the Euro, the single European currency”; and the theorist behind the so-called “Terra currency.” That the film chose to quote him is significant; and it is no wonder that Parts III and IV are ripe with buzzterms such as sustainability, carrying capacity, resource-based economy, common heritage, and world unification.

Jacque Fresco’s answer to the ultimate and inevitable collapse of the monetary system, is to offer up his own unique solution to replace it: the Venus Project. He’s an advocate of a cybernated society, and what he terms “sociocyberneering.” Plugging in “cybernated society” into a Google books search, one is confronted by results from the works of Henry Margenau (world government advocate), Paul Goodman (”New Left” anarchist sociologist), and Leo Huberman (socialist agitator). Sociology, as a term, and the practice of the social sciences itself, goes back to Claude-Henri de Saint-Simon (the original technocrat) and his pupil Auguste Comte, inventor of positivism. Saint-Simonians, in the early 1800s, called for a “new Economic Parliament of Europe and a transnational authority”; the political structure had to be replaced by “social authority” and a “technocratic utopia” run by scientists, inventors and engineers. A “totally scientistic system” whose followers proselytized for “social control,” challenged individualism, with the goal of creating an “elite of the new age.” (See James H. Billington, Fire in the Minds of Men: Origins of the Revolutionary Faith, Basic Books Inc., 1980, pp. 214-18.)

Much like Saint-Simon before him, and Bacon’s New Atlantis, Peter Joseph’s techo-guru, Jacque Fresco believes in the sacerdocy of scientists. The technicians, he says in Addendum (around 1:05:30), are the only ones sufficiently advanced enough, and with the necessary skills to solve the real problems of the world.

Technology as savior.

Technocracy, Inc.

Man (with a capital “M”) as god.

Cybernetic utopia.


Connect the dots:

Barmby communitarian | “Jacque Fresco” Etzioni | Futurist communitarian | “world government” theosophy | anarcho-communitarian | Hegel Marx Saint-Simon Technocracy | Cybernetics Trentowski | Cybernetics “Club of Rome” | Brzezinski cybernetics | “population control” cybernetics


On the net:

Zeitgeist Addendum – A Critical Review

Zeitgeist 2: Theosophy, Socialism, and The new NWO

Dedroidify: jacque fresco

Zeitgeist Addendum – “A Push for A New One World Religion”

from: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=685

My Critique of ‘Zeitgeist’ Creator, Peter Joseph

Zeitgeist A Concise Philosophical Analysis of Peter Joseph’s Worldview

By: Jay Dyer

As Zeitgeist creator Peter Joseph and Alex Jones were debating on air last week, all I could think was, “Man, this sounds just like everything I learned in my ‘Marxism and Critical Theory’ class two years ago.” That course was taught by a fellow who studied under intellectuals from the Frankfurt School, which claimed Marxist-olic Succession (lol). The school, originally called The Institute for Social Research, was founded by an extremely wealthy fellow, Felix Weil who, just like Engels, oddly supported Marxism (Engels was a rich stock owner). Those decently read in the conspiracy genre know that communism is itself a creation of wealthy capitalists by design. And, contrary to common assumptions, Marx didn’t think capitalism was even ‘wrong’: in fact, he saw it as a progressive step of Western culture out of feudalism which would be succeded by statism and dictatorship, which would then likely culminate in the no-state utopia where every man could awaken every day to fish, paint and re-connect with “nature.”

What was most interesting in Peter Joseph’s attempted defense was although he continually qualified his arguments, he stressed that he wasn’t a Marxist, socialist or a communist. Now, I know that communitarianism is somewhat of an outgrowth of both capitalism and communism, but it certainly swings more in the direction of communism. However, the gospel I heard from Joseph didn’t sound different from Marx at all.

0804736332All throughout the semester, as we read Marx, Adorno, Horkheimer and Habermas, it was undeniable the first generation of Marxists were saying precisely what Peter Joseph is saying. Though our professor did his dissertation on Marx, his assessment was that, at times Marx was utopian, and at other times his writings weren’t. This is because there is a kind of built-in default, where Marx posits utopianism, but qualifies it by saying it doesn’t have to materialize: its not deterministic. And secondly, there is also a kind of evolution of Marx’s thought over time, but, our professor argued, Marx certainly did not believe in historical materialism of the kind that arose in the Eastern Bloc (which is what most people think of Marxism as). Marx proposed dialectical materialism along Hegelian lines, but the utopianism was not determined to occur. The central message of Marx himself-especially the early Marx, was precisely what Peter Joseph argued for: we progressively mature to the point where we can eliminate the institution of the state, competition, money and greed. This is possible because, in this worldview, everything is nurture, not nature.

340xWhat Joseph fails to realize is that what every one of the secular prophets who already proposed this gospel of man years ago ended up realizing it doesn’t seem to work. And in most instances, it led to some statist control entity, mob or dictator enforcing it. Because these “philosophers” and “futurists” are completely sold on the presupposition that man is born a tabula rasa (blank slate) that is purely conditioned, Red leaders (of the Eastern Bloc nations, for example) came to the conclusion that for the good of the many, the few who remained stuck in primitive ideals like religion, private property, capital and gain, family, etc., must be classified as insane enemies of the good of the state: and they must be stamped out. This killed dozens of millions. So while Joseph denies the enforcement of his views and thinks that the state can be eliminated (as Marx said), and while he thinks that our present capitalistic situation is really out of accord with “nature” (as Marx also said), if one really believes this gospel, doesn’t it follow that some body should enforce these “truths” to bring humanity to a more progressive state? Joseph seemed to lean in this direction when he argued to Alex Jones that religious people should be “re-educated.” Once again, standard communist lingo.

Joseph is optimistic, like Marx, and thinks we could “achieve a system where there is no stratification or control.” “This is why,” he said, “religion has to be eradicated,” because religion (especially Christianity) is a fundamental source of hierarchy. Again, though he wanted to qualify how his position wasn’t classical Marxism, at no point did I hear anything in the course of the debate that wasn’t verbatim Karl Marx: even to the point of technology being our ‘savior.’ Marx said this as well.

Beyond this, from a presuppositional, critical perspective, all through the debate Joseph continually made value-statements, yet without realizing (as most professing atheists do) that without universal moral standards, such criticisms are meaningless. On what basis is the Federal Reserve said to be “corrupt,” our system “unfair,” or monopolies “inhumane”? In his worldview, there is no evil, no moral wrong. There Hume can only be what he brilliantly termed “bad.” But this is a misnomer: its still a value judgment. There can be no “bad” actions because there is no purely scientific, empirical basis for value-judgments.

Ironically, atheist empiricist philosopher David Hume gave this same criticism long ago (not of Marxism, but pure empiricism)! To say this or that is “better,” “progressive” or “humane” assumes some kind of universal standard, which no purely empirical, scientific method approach can justify. A good example of a way to prove this is simply to say, “What is the empirical basis for the empirical, scientific method?” There is no experience you can have which shows you, “all true knowledge comes from experience.” ConspiracyArchive’s analysis is correct, when it notes that Joseph is simply naive. His views are not philosophically cogent or defensible: in fact, Joseph sounds like he’s reading his class notes from an Intro to Philosophy class he took at the local community college.

11892004214c65aa And in fact, the later Frankfurt School writers like Horkheimer and Adorno even made several conspiracy-like critical statements against the “elites” who maintain control through mass media (See “The Dialectic of Enlightenment” by them). Thus, even the use of elite-conspiracy-theories is nothing new to Marxist intellectuals and individuals who are themselves members or at least supporters of the conspiracy. [As a side note, this Critical text also contains a seemingly out-of-place discussion of magic and the use of words, which raises interesting suspicions.] But why is Joseph so intent on also attacking religion? Because, as Marx said following the atheistic humanist Ludwig Feuerbach in his blasphemous treatise, Essence of Christianity: in order to destroy the family (the key transmitter of private propterty), we must destroy the Holy Family (Jesus, Mary and Joseph).

I heartily recommend Richard Wurmbrand’s “Marx & Satan,” but we don’t even need to know that Marx was likely a Satanist and member of the occult elite (though its certainly telling) to figure out what’s actually the foundation of this view. What is the root? What is the central ideology? It is that maxim that Marx found so appealing in Feuerbach: the maxim we conspiracy researchers have all heard from a certain wicked 20th century magician. And that is, “Deus est homo: man is God.” This means ultimately, whether intentional or not, Peter Joseph’s Zeitgeist, even for its good points, is really a tool of the conspiracy.

from: http://www.nicenetruth.com/home/2008/10/my-critique-of.html

© 2008 by G. Edward Griffin. Updated 2008 October 13

Hello Mr. Griffin. I’m sure you have heard of the popular movie on the internet, Zeitgeist. It had three separate parts about Christianity being fake, the Federal Reserve being a conspiracy and bad, and that the government was involved in 9/11. Well the sequel just came out, Zeitgeist Addendum, and it seems very dangerous. This movie screams controlled opposition/false solution propaganda more than anything I have ever seen.

The movie starts off with why the Federal Reserve is bad. It seems to latch onto valid concerns that the freedom movement/Ron Paul supporters have been worried about. But its solution is really, really bad and is already sending a lot of people in the wrong direction. It goes on to say that money is evil and has caused every problem in the world. If only we abolished all money and private property everything would be great. All resources should collectively belong to all humans of the world. Intelligent management of resources and technology could allow everyone to be free. The world would turn into some utopia. All crime would go away and greed and corruption would go away. We should be a one world community. It even specifically says that voting for liberty candidates like Ron Paul is the wrong thing to do. I guess we should give up all hope and let bad politicians do whatever they want to us.

It is full of doublespeak, wild assumptions, and crazy socialist propaganda. It also put in more about how religion is bad. I am convinced this thing was specifically made to stop the liberty movement from achieving anything. It puts in just enough truths that we believe in to trick people into following the wrong path.

I think statements about what is wrong with this film from liberty organizations like Freedom Force International would do a lot of good and would prevent some people from going in the wrong direction. Some people might think the best idea is to just ignore it and it will go away. But it appears to be incredibly popular online and gaining support. Even the most popular Ron Paul website posted the video. And the most popular Ron Paul message board has three threads with hundreds of posts talking about it. Here is the video link.
Jonathan, 2008 Oct 6


Jonathan, I don’t like to criticize anything that is helping to spread the truth about the Federal Reserve and 9/11 but I must agree with the substance of what you have said about this video. I watched it two nights ago and was deeply disturbed by its message. At first, I thought it would be best to just let it play itself out in expectation that most viewers would cross it off as whacky. However, the production value is high, the effects and sound score are compelling, and there is enough truth embedded in the beginning to capture the attention and possibly the trust of many within the freedom movement. So here are my comments on a few items of concern:

1. The information about the Federal Reserve is, for the most part, right on target. However, I practically fell out of my chair when the program repeated that old, silly argument about the Fed not creating enough money to cover the cost of interest on debt; and, therefore, the world must forever be in debt. I knew right there that the writer did not read The Creature from Jekyll Island or, if he did, he forgot my analysis of this common myth. For those who are interested in that topic, it is fund on pages 191-192 of The Creature.

2. The next jolt came when the program praised Civil War Greenbacks, calling them debt-free. Actually, Greenbacks were contrary to the U.S. Constitution and, although they were not fiat money issued by the banks, they were fiat money issued by the government. That was better than paying interest on nothing to bankers, but they still wiped out the purchasing power of American money through massive inflation. They can not correctly be called debt-free, either, because they represented debt on the shoulders of the government, which means, of course, on the shoulders of the taxpayers. It never ceases to amaze me how people think that the solution to money created out of nothing by those big, bad bankers is to have money created out of nothing by those nice, trustworthy politicians. Yet, that is what this program supports.

3. There is a lengthy segment in which the author of I Was an Economic Hit Man, John Perkins, tells the story of how propagandists in the U.S. manipulated public opinion to support military action against several Latin American countries. Then Perkins says that these propagandists scared Americans by telling them that the leaders of these countries were Marxists who were aligned with the Soviets. This, of course, is a half truth that is just as dangerous as a total lie. It is true about the propagandists and their strategy to scare the public into supporting military intervention in those countries, but it is false to portray those dictators as great humanitarians who cared only for the well being of their people. That is total bunk. They WERE aligned with the Soviet Union and they WERE part of a Marxist/Leninist strategy to dominate Latin America; a strategy that continues to this day.

There was plenty not to like on both sides of that struggle, but objective historians would never depict the Rhodesians (the CFR crowd in the U.S.) as bad guys but depict the Soviet puppets as good guys. In his book, Perkins reveals this same slant. He exposes the foul tactics of international corporations, the IMF, and World Bank, but he never mentions a Leftist dictator, such as Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez without praising them. Perkins is a collectivist aligned with the Left, and that strongly influences his telling of this story. Yet the producers of the video make no mention of this bias and give him an inordinate amount of time to present his slanted view without challenge.

4. Perhaps the biggest insult to our intelligence is the main theme of the program. It is that profits are the root of all our problems today. That being the case, we must change mankind to reject profit and we must work together on some other basis. It is never quite clear what that basis is, but, whatever it is, it will be administered and directed by an elite group, at least in the beginning. I was stunned by the fact that this is pure Marxism. Marx theorized that people had to be re-educated (in labor camps, if necessary) to cleanse their minds of the profit motive. He and his disciples, such as Lenin and Stalin and Khruschev, said that, eventually, the character of man would be purged of greed, and then the state would wither away because it no longer would be needed. Sure! We saw that in the Soviet Union and China, right? Yet this Marxist nonsense is exactly what is offered in this video program. It is Communism without using the name.

The profit motive is neither good nor bad. It can be applied either way depending on social and political factors. The desire for profit is merely the desire to be compensated for our labor, our creativity, our knowledge, or even for our risk. Without profit, very little would be accomplished in the world – not even if everyone spent a few years in labor camps to be re-educated. It is a basic part of man’s nature and is the mainspring of human progress, as Henry Grady Weaver described it in his book by that same title. Throughout history, whenever man lived in a system that allows him to be rewarded for his work, there has been great productivity and abundance. By contrast, where social engineers gained control of the state and restricted people from receiving the fruits of their labor, productivity fell, and scarcity was the norm.

The profit motive functions differently in different political systems. In a free system where government does not intervene in the market place, the profit motive always will manifest itself as competition, each person or each company trying to deliver better quality products and services at lower prices. That was how it used to be in the early days of America, and that is what led to the greatest outpouring of productivity and abundance the world has ever seen. However, in a collectivist system where government controls every conceivable aspect of economic and commercial activity (the system that now exists in America), the profit motive always manifests itself as a quest for political influence and laws to favor one group over another. The net effect is to eliminate competition in the market place. Under collectivism, success is achieved, not by creating better products and services for less cost, but by controlling legislators and government agencies. It is a system of legalized plunder, as Frederic Bastiat called it in his famous treatise, The Law. Unfortunately, it is the system that dominates most of the world today.

Zeitgeist Addendum ignores this reality. At one point the narrator even says that the greatest evil in the world today is “the free enterprise system.” That’s an incredible statement, especially inasmuch as the free enterprise system has been dead for several decades. It lives in name only. The whole world now is in the grips of non-competitive monopolies and cartels that have forged partnerships with governments. All of the evils to which this program alludes are the result, not of the free enterprise system, but of the abandonment of free enterprise and the adoption of collectivism. This program creates a mythological boogeyman and then advocates more of the very thing that has brought us to the mess we are in today.

The enemy of mankind is not profit. It is a political system of big government. Yet, this program is supportive of some of the most notable big-government collectivist on the planet. Marxist/Leninists may be enemies of collectivists in Washington, DC, but they are collectivists in their own right. The Communist model is no better than the Nazi model.

There is much more that could be said about other program topics such as technology supposedly being our salvation, about the a future world in which no one has to work, and about common ownership of land, oceans, natural resources, etc. but, for the most part, these merely are sub issues to the ones already described, so I will spare my readers the pain of further discourse.

In summary, this program does NOT offer a cure. It offers a mega dose of the disease itself.

Ed Griffin, 2008 Oct 9

from: http://www.freedom-force.org

‘Zeitgeist’ the Movie (July 31, 2007)

Subject: Zeitgeist the movie
From: Ray
Date: Tue, July 31, 2007
To: Editor
Please mention this online movie on your website.
I hope you’ve heard of it.
Everything from religion, politics, banking… etc… A must see for any truth seeker. Please believe me.
Thanks for your time Ken
Hi Ray,
Thanks. Yes, I have seen it.
The 911 stuff is good, but not original. Others have already put out that information.
The propaganda Mickey Finn comes in the first part of the film.
Read my comments here: http://educate-yourself.org/lte/stevengreertake627jul07.shtml

“I saw another clever propaganda film over the internet this evening called “Zeitgeist.” (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=zeitgeist) I was getting e-mails urging me to watch it, so I did. The first third of the film was devoted to convincing you that Jesus Christ never existed. The remaining two thirds of the film did a good job of recapping what other documentaries on 911 had already achieved: that 911 was an inside job and there is plenty of convincing and indisputable evidence to prove it, despite the fact that the traitors in government did their level best to conceal the evidence of sabotage.

The last two thirds of the film reinforces things that you already knew were true, therefore that “believability factor” will spill over into the first third of the film where they present what SOUNDS like and what APPEARS to be convincing “evidence” that Christ never existed and was just an invented mythological character, but of course, the film “proved” no such things, as many of the narrator’s statements were simply untrue (e.g. “there is not even ONE historian at the time of Christ who makes any mention of Him”).

There is a big propaganda push going on these days to kill off the Catholic church altogether (apparently every priest, bishop, or cardinal is now to be considered a pedophile) and even deny that Christ ever existed. This is part of the Illuminati’s agenda to destroy a belief in Christ, in spirituality in general, and to eviscerate the brotherly message of Christ, which is love, tolerance, and forgiveness.

It’s a pity to see a guy like Greg Syzmanski being played like a fiddle by Catholic haters to the point that he links every aspect of the New World Order takeover with the Vatican. I mean it’s simply astonishing what I’m reading at his web site: The Vatican is in charge of the NWO. or The Vatican is in charge of Bush . or The Vatican is in charge of All Things Evil etc. He’s doing exactly what the Nazis did in the 1930’s when it came to the subject of Jews; and I don’t think he realizes it as he’s caught up in the fever of “exposing” those dark and evil Vatican manipulators operating out of St Peter’s Square. He’s scapgoating the Vatican, and by extension, the Catholic church and its members, as being the dominant, driving force behind the NWO, Satanism, etc. That’s ridiculous. And that’s not to say that I don’t know well the long history of power abuse by the hierarchy of Catholic Church.

I’m willing to look at the evidence of those persons within the Vatican (including the Pope) or within the church who are are involved in evil conduct, whether it’s satanic rituals or assassinations or whatever, but I’m not going to wholesale assign blame to the entire organization and its members because Eric Jon Phelps , a dyed in the wool Calvinist zealot and arch Catholic-hater says it so. I need something called PROOF, real PROOF, and not Phelps’ over-the-top ACCUSATIONS. I need more corroboration than the allegations of a single individual who obviously has a Catholic-bashing agenda and who proudly bills himself on his web site as ” Eric Jon Phelps, White American Freeman Dispensational, Fifth Monarchy, Seventh-Day Baptist-Calvinist” (http://www.vaticanassassins.org/).

What does that type of chest pounding tell you about Eric Jon Phelps? Are we to consider this guy an unbiased historian-or someone who’s on a ‘mission’ with an axe to grind? “

And what is the logical conclusion that one must draw from such gross simplification and blame assignment? Simple. Let’s get rid of the Vatican, the Pope, the Jesuits, all of those evil cardinals, and the entire “harlot” Catholic church, and VIOLA, the NWO falls like a house of cards! Are these the sentiments of rational people or bigoted, Catholic-hating zealots? Is Phelps and his mimics any different than Jew haters or Muslim haters?

Isn’t that what the Nazis did to the Jews? First they blamed them for all of Germany’s woes and then they offered the ‘solution’ to the “problem” of the Jews: Get rid of them -one way or the other.

Regards, Ken


More on the Captivating Charms of Acharya S (July 12, 2008)

Eric Dubay & The Captivating Charms of Acharya S (July 9, 2008)

Revisiting Zeitgeist, the Movie (March 18, 2008)

Zeitgeist The Movie helps the New World Order – A Forum Posting (Feb. 21, 2008)

Movie ‘Zeitgeist’ – Illuminati Critique Or Psy-Op? by Henry Makow (Sep. 16, 2007)

More on ‘Zeitgeist’ and the Denial of Christ’s Existence (Aug. 1, 2007)

Dr. Steven Greer, Take Six & Comments on ‘Zeitgeist’ (July 27, 2007)


Nowhere To Run Zeitgeist Challenge responds to Acharya S (June 15, 2008)

Zeitgeist the movie: Truth Exposure or psyops?

The Zeitgeist hoax

Take the Zeitgeist Challenge 1

Take the Zeitgeist Challenge 2

from: http://educate-yourself.org/lte/zeitgeistmovie31jul07.shtml

Movie “Zeitgeist”: Illuminati Critique or Psy Op?
September 15, 2007

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Throughout history, paganism and true religion have struggled for the soul of mankind. This age-old battle is drawing to a close with a magnificent victory for paganism.

For the naïve populace, this collective deathmarch is masked as “secular humanism,” and “modernism.”

It is directed and financed by Illuminati central bankers, who are the leaders of cabalistic secret societies associated with Freemasonry and Communism.

Their aim is to redefine reality so that the human race will serve them instead of God. This is the essence of the “New World Order.”

In this perspective, it is hard to decipher the movie “Zeitgeist” which has received wide exposure on the Internet reaching beyond the conspiracy conscious.

The film is divided into three parts.

Parts II and III are generally excellent exposures of the Illuminati-controlled banking system and the Illuminati-instigated 9-11 attacks. The film shows how the latter provided the excuse for fascism and how the Illuminati intend to enslave us.

The puzzle is Part I: a vicious, gratuitous attack on Christianity comparing it to the frauds of 9-11 and the Federal Reserve. The film argues that Christ was created in the mold of numerous pagan sun gods that predate him, and the historical Christ never actually existed. Stealing from Jordan Maxwell and citing Achaya, Rimpoche and John Lennon, “Zeitgeist” intones a New Age mantra: “Religion divorces man from nature. It is slavery. They use religious myths to control and manipulate society.”

This is essentially the pagan message. Since they want God’s job, the Illuminati’s primary goal has always been to destroy Christianity. Another recent psy-op is Mother Teresa’s confession (in letters) that she had grave doubts about her faith for most of her life. This story was front-page news in the Illuminati Zionist press where the Catholic Church is always fair game.

Is “Zeitgeist” also a psy-op? Why not hide an Illuminati message in an excellent anti-Illuminati documentary? After all, the 9-11 and Fed information is already out there. What better way to turn the young generation against religion?

I don’t think this is deliberate on the part of the filmmakers. The Illuminati generally fund people who already are unwitting agents of their agenda.

More interesting to me is why so many smart people have such a problem with Christ’s teachings. Why does the Gospel of Brotherly Love arouse so much hate?

Yes the church has been subverted and has discredited Christ. But surely we can separate Christ’s teachings from the people who fail to represent them.


Christ’s teachings give the lie to Zeitgeist’s claim that he is another pagan symbol. Unlike Christ, Horus et al did not express the Spirit of God.

Millions of people experience the Sprit of God directly. They can confirm that Christ indeed is a messenger of God. I am a (non observant) Jew and do not belong to any Christian church but even I can see this. So can Muslims and Hindus who also honor Christ.

Before I talk about Christ’s teachings, I want to speak about religion in general.
Try not to zone out as you’ve been programmed to do.

True religion differs from paganism in that it is essentially moral in character. It is concerned with what is true and good, what is right and wrong. It worships (serves) God; not nature, not the sun. It is basically a spiritual discipline designed to attune us to God’s presence and will. By necessity, it is otherworldly, i.e. it rejects the priorities of this world, mainly power, money and sex.

Instead it teaches us to aspire to spiritual ideals such as truth, justice, peace, love and beauty as the ultimate reality. Love of God makes us seek these ideals.We know God when they are self-evident to us.

(The popular image of God — a Santa Claus who watches over us and answers our prayers — is the straw man atheists create. How easy to reject such a juvenile concept.)

Whether we are atheists or not, we cannot escape God. God is NOT nature. God is a moral dimension. Everything we do, everything that happens to us, falls along a spectrum of good to evil. We can’t escape that.

In fact, we so love God that we are always striving for some kind of ersatz “good” (often leading to some very real evil.)

We were put on earth to do God’s will, i.e. discern and implement what is genuinely Good. We have to be Good in order to feel good. If we don’t, we bear the consequences and have only ourselves to blame.

We have no trouble recognizing when we are hungry. Our stomach tells us. But when we are despondent, we cannot seem to trace the problem back to our soul because we’re not supposed to have a soul.

The soul is as real as the stomach and the proof is that our hunger for purpose, harmony and meaning is just as great, and much more durable than our hunger for pizza.

Spiritual hunger is what defines us as “human.” Without the ability to distinguish right and wrong, we are little more than animals. The Illuminati want to define us as animals, so they can exploit or destroy us.

When a culture no longer fosters a free discussion of what is true and good; when there is no longer a consensus and desire to achieve these ideals; it is marked for extinction.


“Zeitgeist” says that Horus and numerous other Sun Gods were born on Dec. 25, died on a cross, had 12 disciples, rose after three days etc. etc.

Did they also teach us to love our neighbor, that God is Love, that all men are brothers, and to treat others as you would have them treat you? Did they teach:

“No man can serve two masters…Ye cannot serve God and Mammon.” (Matt 5:24)

“Be ye therefore perfect as your Father who art in heaven is perfect.” (Matt 5: 48)

“God is a Spirit and we must worship Him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24)

“Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you..” (Matt 5:44)

Did they teach worldly denial and escape from the prison of the ego?

“For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for My sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” (Matt 16:27)


“Zeitgeist” seems to disguise an essentially pagan New Age message in a credible attack on the Illuminati. While decrying two Illuminati frauds, it is perpetuating a third one. Along with religion, it also assails nation and race in passing, 3 out of the 4 on the Illuminati hate-list. (No mention of family.)

Just because we reject the juvenile concept of God, we still have souls that intuit immanent Truth and Purpose. Hopefully viewers of “Zeitgeist” will recognize that faith in God answers a very real spiritual hunger.

“Seek and ye shall find.”

from: www.henrymakow.com


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